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小博咱们前年啊在济南爬山的时候
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我们探讨一个问题
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如果是你在阿里和腾讯之间选择
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你会选哪一个
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前年是腾讯
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当时腾讯是不是商业模式比阿里好很多呀
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对呀那阿里呢经过去年的外卖站
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股价呢一落千丈
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那如果说你选腾讯呢
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这两年肯定是跑赢阿里的
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如果说今年呢你再来看阿里和腾讯
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你会选哪一个
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阿里你为什么选阿里了呢
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那阿里的商业模式发生改变了吗
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阿里我不打了
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卖赚也比腾讯强
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阿里不卖不打外卖战会比腾讯强
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强在哪里呀
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想在他抢点便宜
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跌的多
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对阿里啊
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从高点到现在打了个不到四折
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实际上这几年在阿里上挣钱的人很少
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除非说你会卖
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如果你不会卖的话
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阿里去年涨了又跌回去了
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实际上阿里的体验很差
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腾讯的体验呢虽然说没有那么好
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但是比阿里强很多
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那你要买阿里的话
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你主要考虑哪个因素
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是不是因为它的AI啊
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对阿里呢在AI上他一直属于进攻趋势
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腾讯呢它属于防守趋势
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这也是为什么
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腾讯今年跌了将近30%的原因啊
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就是因为他在AI上慢了一拍
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阿里呢实际上他在AI上是领先的
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但是问题是他的精力太分散了
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你知道阿里打过外战亏了多少钱吗
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不知道亏了1000个亿啊
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嗯如果他不打王外战
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他把这1000亿挪到了AI上
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他现在是不是已经又领先了
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对你看我举个例子啊
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比如说他开始打外卖蛋的时候啊
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一单亏个三五块钱
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一年亏1000个亿
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但是呢他现在呢卖token
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他搞大模型
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卖token呢虽然也是烧钱
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也要烧掉很多钱
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但是绝对烧不到1000个亿
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但是他烧这个钱呢
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它带来的估值提升远远不止这个
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而且卖token带来的收入是远远大于搞外卖的
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那你猜为什么他还要搞外卖呢
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什么原因呢
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因为他想领先一想装逼
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他因为是因为怕拼多多
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还有美团抖音抢他的老巢
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对不对对
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他还是靠主营业务赚钱给他输血
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实际上无论是阿里腾讯
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他们都是一些传统的业务公司
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比如说阿里还得靠电商赚钱
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腾讯呢还得靠游戏赚钱是吧
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它还是传统的电商公司
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它不是像美国
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美国这种科技公司在AI上已经赚钱了
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比如说你像你像那个是阿里云
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那不是你像亚马逊AWS
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已经占了他业务的一半的利润了啊
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比如说特殊的FSD啊
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利润也是每年高速增长啊
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再比如像微软啊
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云服务
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谷歌的云
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甚至甲骨文的云都是50%以上的增长
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实际上美股科技呢他已经在AI上尝到了甜头
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他的投入已经见到了效果了
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包括美国的大模型
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你无论是他的UP怎么的
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是不是每个月都赚钱呀
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但你再看那个哦
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你看那个就是小龙虾
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那个公司就二二十多配克二手欧佩克
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你知道他他现在每个月收入多少钱吗
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就美国的科技公司在AI上已经尝到了甜头
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所以他又大力的投
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不遗余力的投
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但中国这些互联网公司尝到甜头了吗
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没有他现在只是尝到苦头了
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他尝到外卖的苦头
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投入上没有上限
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所以导致他呢他在投入上
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他是他是一个什么状态
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它是一个是吧
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这个就是放不开的状态是吧
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因为投了之后没效果
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在传统主营业务上稍微打价格战又有增量
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他迫于考核压力是不是就很短视呀
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实际上呢这就是一个核心的问题
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就是你越不赚钱
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你越不敢去大投入
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对你越守着老业务
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你像美股呢
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他越赚钱
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他越愿意投
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是不是对
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但你觉得这个这个趋势的话会不会扭转呀
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会对随着token出海
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token的爆发
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慢慢的他在这里面找常识了以后
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是不是把注意力全部集中了
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如果团队集中注意力集中
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资源集中
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加上这个趋势上来
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他会不会在A上带来这个风口啊
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会所以实际上呢他如果在A上发力
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公司还是非常有前途的
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对不对对好吧
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那你今天选什么呀
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嗯哪里诶
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嘿嘿嘿好
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我们年底再看看
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好不好
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好