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一年前罗宾汉几乎无可挑剔
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但股价从高位下跌了近50%
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就在2025年末尾
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这家公司是否真的陷入困境
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还是罗宾汉的故事正在改变
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我有一位投资者可能有答案
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我叫特拉维斯·霍亚姆
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今天欢迎约翰·夸斯讨论罗宾汉
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约翰·罗宾汉上周公布了财报
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这是我见过最有趣的财报之一
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因为一年前罗宾汉增长了100%
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同比来看
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他们
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当时似乎无所不能
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本季度
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市场反应非常剧烈
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财报后股价暴跌14%
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但深入看数据
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这家公司的故事似乎在变化
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回想疫情时期
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这是YOLO交易平台
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人们都在购买零日期权
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如今情况已彻底改变
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这对公司财务是利空
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但罗宾汉是否在成熟化
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作为我们长期投资者希望的方向
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从关键指标看确实在成熟
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朝着我们希望的方向
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有很多衡量方式
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我稍后会详细分析
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但管理的退休资产规模是关键指标
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显示投资基础正在扩大
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我认为这是积极的
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然而
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首先明确
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这仍是活跃交易者平台
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事实上
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CEO弗拉德·滕诺夫表示要成为活跃交易者第一
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说我们希望你感觉在其他平台交易有劣势
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除了罗宾汉
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仍专注此方向
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第一季度收入42%
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来自融资利息
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期权和交易费
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交易费用
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这些都来自活跃交易者
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主要收入来源
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仍是业务核心
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但我们正在转型
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没错
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我们来回顾一些数据
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因为我觉得这里面存在一些显著的差异
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罗宾汉目前的状况
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与它实际在2024年大选前的情况
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这确实是一个有趣的分水岭
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如果你还记得,那正是加密货币飙升的时刻
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疯狂至极
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在这张图表中可以看到
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2024年第四季度加密货币收入
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在2024年第四季度激增至3.58亿美元
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相比前一季度的6100万美元大幅增长
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正是这一年同比爆发式增长的起点
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但过去五个季度增速明显放缓
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加密货币领域其实
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我不认为进入寒冬
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但已进入小幅低迷期
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如今收入已降至1.434亿美元
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最新季度的数据
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期权业务也呈现相似趋势
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仍是其重要业务板块
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但长期爆发力已不如从前
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这是否意味着减少对期权和加密货币的依赖是积极的
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还是我在过度解读数据
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不
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你完全没过度解读
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事实上观察罗宾汉
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从愿景层面
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本质上希望成为全球交易平台
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涵盖各类资产
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如果我们回溯时间
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最初仅专注股票交易
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不知道多少年前
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几年前仅限股票并逐步拓展
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加密货币曾为增长提供强劲动力
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因此可以推断
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若进一步多元化业务
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涵盖其计划拓展的领域
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预测市场是否值得探讨
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但公司正在大力布局的新方向
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带来更多可能性
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长期增强收入潜力
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而非依赖单一市场
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单一产品线
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你提到产品线
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这确实很有趣
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我会上图展示他们展示的幻灯片
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但他们的产品迭代速度常被强调
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仅看今年前三个月
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新增更多加密货币
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新增更多预测市场
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你知道吧
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我不知道
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这究竟是好是坏
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长期的罗宾汉链
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所以将资产转移到区块链测试网启动
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他们推出了一张新白金卡
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他们的创业基金
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我认为这至少是个有趣的产品
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在过去几年里
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推出了黄金信用卡
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你知道吧
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这就是其中一个原因
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我是黄金会员
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所以我经常使用这些产品
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他们以前没有罗思IRA账户
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现在正进军托管账户业务
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顺便说他们赢得了与美国政府的合作项目
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嗯那个
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这家经纪公司
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他们基本上在搭建平台
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这些
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这些儿童特朗普账户
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所以这将会
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这会是独立的
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但我认为你说得对
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这确实显示出必须分析他们的财务和产品路线
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以及这家企业正在以完全不同的方式运作
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需要分别分析
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因为这已不再是当初的公司了
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你知道的
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交易时火花四溅
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即使是十五美元的股票
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现在它已成为一个家庭长期积累财富的平台
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这似乎标志着成熟
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罗宾汉曾因缺乏成熟度受到批评
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但看来正在接近成熟
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这是一个有点痛苦的过程
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是的
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这
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当你想到这一点确实意义重大
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当我们说科技原生公司有优势时
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并非指产品一定创新
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但能以极快速度精准推向市场
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更具市场灵活性
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因为它是科技原生公司
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这也是劣势所在
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传统巨头通常无法快速响应
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所以
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从投资角度观察
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这一点非常重要
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你提到了特朗普的账户
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这是一个非常有趣的视角
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实际上直到七月四日才开始逐步增加
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当事情真正起飞时
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这有可能成为
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是的
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孩子们从小就很熟悉罗宾hood
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由于这次操作
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这确实非常值得密切关注
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是的
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这将成为一项成本
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同时也是一个业务
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因此不会成为巨大的收入或增长驱动力
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他们提到要增加一亿美元成本以调整预测
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但政府将承担这部分费用
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嗯
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支付这笔费用
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所以是的
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这更多是熟悉罗宾hood
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你知道的
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适应这个平台
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而这将会
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你知道的
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潜在数百万新客户
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我想谈谈我一直在关注的一个趋势
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是用户趋势
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因为过去几年对罗宾hood的批评
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是他们增长乏力
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像sofi这样的公司我们通常看
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他们正在增加
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你知道的
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会员数量增长30%
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同比
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罗宾hood没有做到这一点
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我想指出几个数据
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他们报告的月活跃用户在2024年第四季度达到峰值
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2024年第四季度
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我们讨论过这个激增
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你知道的
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大约在选举期间
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正是那时发生的
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十四点
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九百万月活跃用户
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实际上降至十三点
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五百万同期
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不过这里可能反映了业务成熟
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已开户客户数量持续增长
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即不活跃客户的占比
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那些只是
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我有一些股票
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我有一些
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你知道罗宾汉的指数基金
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也许我有一个退休账户
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我们稍后会谈到这个
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但这一比例的人群在上升
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就是那个你知道的
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这不会推动收入增长
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但会增强企业的持续性
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所以拥有更多不活跃客户是否是积极的
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这不是他们公布的指标
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但某种程度上
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从数据中提取出来
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他们确实会报告
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是的
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以及更多高价值客户
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我认为这就是一般的商业启示
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如果你有一百万客户带来一美元收入
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或者一个客户带来一百万美元收入
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你当然想要后者
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就像罗宾汉拥有高价值客户一样
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所以是的
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也许用户趋势不如以前
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但我们正在淘汰部分小额活跃交易者
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这些并不真正影响
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完全没起作用
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现在我们正推动大额存款并逐步增长
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这是一个非常好的趋势
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说到这些存款
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你之前提到的退休账户
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当你看结果时
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我认为有一件事必须突出
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罗宾汉的退休账户数量
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要知道这本身是个年轻业务
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但过去一年增长了50%
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一点三
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从两百万增至近两百万客户
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在罗宾汉有退休账户
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这些退休账户的资产
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所以
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尽管我们经历了较弱的市场
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对于通常与罗宾汉投资者相关的股票类型
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达到144亿美元
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增至274亿美元
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增长90%
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每账户托管资产
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他们也报告这一指标已增至约14000美元
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这明显朝着正确方向发展
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但权衡是
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你不会有这么高的收入
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高利润率
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你知道吗
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加密货币和期权交易这些将成为
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但这些有可能会成为
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未来二十年到四十年推动你业务的人群
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如果你想成为一家五十年到一百年的企业
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作为一家经纪公司
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必须要有退休账户业务
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我的意思是很多人会认为这是三十年的锁定期
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可能没错
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是的
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我是说
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这可是个巨大的事情
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你看
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我们之前讨论的另一个话题
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罗宾hood正在推出的金融产品
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为投资者构建股息工具
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现在
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他们只是尝试这样做
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嗯
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我读到这个时不禁莞尔
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因为你脑海中有个罗宾hood及其用户的刻板印象
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而你不会想到
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他们真正需要的是公司开发的股息工具
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这完全出乎你的预料
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但没错
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这表明用户群体正在快速增长
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正转向长期投资思维
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而这正是股息投资者的特点
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所以没错
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这与平台层面的变化完全契合
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我想先谈谈业务的技术层面
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稍后我们再讨论估值
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但纵观罗宾hood的发展轨迹
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我们接触过多家金融机构
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嗯
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我认为目前来看是最接近的镜像
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交易量在下降
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这并不令人意外
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像期权交易
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加密货币交易量下降
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这将影响罗宾hood的短期业绩
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但从长期来看
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他们推出的产品
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嗯
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用户增长的势头或停滞
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视角度而定
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从用户角度看
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你认为这家企业能否持续高速增长
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你知道过去五年复合年增长率达25%
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这家企业的增长潜力
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你知道如果能坚持十年的话
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这将使你成为一个庞大的企业
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这是能够长期持续增长收入的公司吗
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至少对投资者来说值得关注
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我认为罗宾汉将继续以高复合增长率增长
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但我认为我们将看到增长速度的持续波动
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不会是稳定的
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今年大概10%
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明年12%然后11%
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不会像这样因为Axon企业
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是的
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正是这个原因
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仍有大量收入来自活跃交易用户
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现在我们处于牛市行情中这对他们有利
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现在还不知道何时会出现熊市
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会有回调
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会有崩盘
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那时收入增长会大幅放缓
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其他业务能否弥补这一缺口
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并维持增长
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还不确定是否已准备好
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但如果从五年或更长期看
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是的
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能看到持续稳定的增长
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能超越市场表现
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他们还很好地控制了成本
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需要提到的是控制成本
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现在现金流为正
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实现自由现金流
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所以现在
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这家公司已不同于2021年
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经历了
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2022年那段时期
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市场处于下行
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尤其是高增长板块
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财务状况几乎崩溃
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看起来公司
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或CEO Vlad已成熟许多
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好的
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尽管如此
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看看这只股票
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市销率为14倍
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嗯
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基于历史自由现金流市盈率23倍
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基于未来预期
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达到43倍
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今天是否是投资良机
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或仍被高估
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绝对估值而言
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目前仍被严重高估
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这值得吗
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考虑到未来五到十年它应该能创造的增长
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我认为可能值得
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但我也相信投资者最终会获得更好的交易
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这有点危险
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因为这有点市场时机选择
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这有点预测性质
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股票走势和市场情绪会如何发展
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但再次强调我们正处于狂热牛市之中
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现在
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过去三年的惊人回报率
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我认为市场情绪可能会转变
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可能会有更好的交易机会
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但当前是否是个糟糕的时机
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我不觉得这是糟糕的时机
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从长期看你仍能在Robinhood获利
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如果采取长期视角
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但啊
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未来可能会有更好的交易
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或许可以定投
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股价已下跌50%
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嗯但确实
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开始建仓
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现在可能不是
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可能不是最差选择
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嗯
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这是我持有的持仓组合
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你持有股份
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当前的Robinhood股票
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今天我不持有
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好的
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我们拭目以待
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嗯
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如果约翰有兴趣买入的价格
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请分享你对Robinhood的看法
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